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Super Perfect Cell vs Dabura
Topic Started: Dec 12 2013, 01:40 PM (1,594 Views)
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breaking the sword doesn't prove anything besides the sword being weak. dabura being strong doesn't make the sword stronger. dabura is stated and later confirmed to be as powerful as cell, so dabura is as powerful as cell. the cell that was a frightening opponent. not the one that nearly lost except for his regen.
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Dec 15 2013, 09:50 PM
breaking the sword doesn't prove anything besides the sword being weak. dabura being strong doesn't make the sword stronger. dabura is stated and later confirmed to be as powerful as cell, so dabura is as powerful as cell. the cell that was a frightening opponent. not the one that nearly lost except for his regen.
Statements can be contradicted when we saw actual feats that goes against it. Take M8 for example, Goku King Kai and everyone said Broly is a galaxy buster, is he really?
The sword been weak?but that's you're opinion,how do you know its"weak"Dabura was clearly not stomping Gohan thus there gap is lower than 1.2x times,Dabura ain't touching SPC,com'on now friend
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Don't use movies as evidence, I don't see any reason to doubt statements in this case, especially since feats are incredibly unreliable most of the time and very inconsistent.


I agree with lunar on the subject.
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Dec 15 2013, 10:15 PM
Don't use movies as evidence, I don't see any reason to doubt statements in this case, especially since feats are incredibly unreliable most of the time and very inconsistent.


I agree with lunar on the subject.
Well I have more examples on the subject
Super Buu stated that Gohan is the only one that exceed him in power,ignoring Gotenks,which was shown he was about to beat Super Buu
Trunks said that Gotenks>Gohan which is also wrong
So there ya go,manga evidence that statements can always Been proven wrong when feats happen
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Oh, if that is what you meant then I agree. :p not in this case though.
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Dec 15 2013, 10:27 PM
Oh, if that is what you meant then I agree. :p not in this case though.
But why :) ?
Gohan was SSj(we saw it in the manga)he was not getting stomped by Dabura at all(which means there gap is below 1.2x times)at most Dabura is at MSSj Gohan CG,even if you want to godamn overpower him,you cannot have him above SPC
Vegeta stated that he could take him out,lets assume he meant at SSj2,SSj2 Vegeta Buu saga>Dabura, however its obvious with statements and such that the first fighters that ever surpassed CG Gohan was Majin Vegeta and Goku
Pre Majin Vegeta should be about equal at SPC, so:
SSj2 Pre Majin Vegeta=SPC>Dabura
Seriously there is no way Dabura is soooo much powerfull,it fully goes against anything the manga says, I know statements are most of the times valid, but when they can be proved wrong they are called "hyperboles"
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i never said dabura was as strong as spc. i said he was as strong as FP cell, which is the strongest cell goku ever sensed, and who was powerful enough to scare everyone, unlike suppressed perfect cell who goku was never even slightly worried about, and nearly beat.
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Dec 15 2013, 10:34 PM
i never said dabura was as strong as spc. i said he was as strong as FP cell, which is the strongest cell goku ever sensed, and who was powerful enough to scare everyone, unlike suppressed perfect cell who goku was never even slightly worried about, and nearly beat.
Well maybe that would be possible if Dabura had the power to stomp Gohan, I personally put him at Supressed Cells level, but I guess its,,,fine :) ,at least we both know that SPC>>Dabura
So I guess that tread pretty much took its answer
EDIT:forgive me for before I thought you meant SPC,even though I still disagree about Dabura=FPPC ;)
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"I am the bone of my sword."

I have little to no reason to put Dabura as high as FP Cell. Dabura was still struggling with SSJ Gohan, he was putting effort into his attacks and even panting at the end. Babidi was getting angry and wondering why Dabura wasn't doing the damage necessary to get Majin Boo up. The only thing that really has Dabura specifically above Gohan is the statements from Goku saying that Gohan isn't "entirely losing."

It's made pretty clear that Gohan was still at a level that could pressure Dabura despite the latter's inclined superiority. Something that would never have happened to SSJ Kid Gohan much less Full Powered Perfect Cell. I think at Dabura's best, I'll assume SSJ Kid Gohan power maximum and I think that's treading thin ice as well. There's no reason to hold back when he not only knows he needs energy but has too much respect for Babidi to actually try and mess things up when these guys have just whooped threw some of their finest and there so desperate for energy right now.

Having Dabura at Full Powered Cell and doing what is basically a pathetic performance at that level, makes little sense to me.

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SPC vs Dabura?

This is a huge stomp for Cell.

All Cell has to do is point, shoot, and kill.

Pretty much like the scenario with Trunks.
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spc>fpc>>dabura>=gohan ssj buu arc

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Dec 16 2013, 12:39 AM
spc>fpc>>dabura>=gohan ssj buu arc
Well,Dabura seemed to have an upper hand at Gohan,I would have him a bit stronger ^_^
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Cell lets out his tail and absorbs Dabura :D
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